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		<title>By: John Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.nevermind.co.nz/2008/04/10/techtidbit-avoid-magnummac/comment-page-1/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bought an iPhone3GS from MagnumMac in Albany Auckland Mall and it was just showing some problems (phone vibrates when pressed on upper left corner of the phone while in silent mode). So I requested a replacement under warranty since it&#039;s only been 3 months. 

First thing I did when I walked in the store was to ask one of the staff how long the warranty was on new iPhones and he said 12 months. Then I asked if that warranty will repair or replace faulty product and he clearly said they will just replace with a new one.

The people who work there seems to be not so polite but at least they agreed to send it off. I was told it will take 2 weeks and they weren&#039;t going to provide me any temporary phone or anything. So I was just happy that they will get it replaced. I will see what they send me in couple of weeks.

Will post more of my warranty experience from MagnumMac Albany Auckland Mall in couple of weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bought an iPhone3GS from MagnumMac in Albany Auckland Mall and it was just showing some problems (phone vibrates when pressed on upper left corner of the phone while in silent mode). So I requested a replacement under warranty since it&#8217;s only been 3 months. </p>
<p>First thing I did when I walked in the store was to ask one of the staff how long the warranty was on new iPhones and he said 12 months. Then I asked if that warranty will repair or replace faulty product and he clearly said they will just replace with a new one.</p>
<p>The people who work there seems to be not so polite but at least they agreed to send it off. I was told it will take 2 weeks and they weren&#8217;t going to provide me any temporary phone or anything. So I was just happy that they will get it replaced. I will see what they send me in couple of weeks.</p>
<p>Will post more of my warranty experience from MagnumMac Albany Auckland Mall in couple of weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.nevermind.co.nz/2008/04/10/techtidbit-avoid-magnummac/comment-page-1/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 06:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sales department from Magnum Mac in Wellington is still lousy.
Went in there on Saturday to buy a 27-inch iMac.
Staff were busy gossiping amongst each other, walking straight past me without enquiring if I needed any assistance.
Waited for around 15 minutes before anyone approached me. Absolutely useless!
Did manage to get it in the end as they happened to have stock. 
If only a decent competitor would open up to go against them!
 
The service department (for all the negatives comments I&#039;ve heard about them) were quite good.
They fixed my under warranty MBP in a fast, efficient manner and were quite helpful.
This repair was a few years ago so whether it&#039;s still the same now or I just got lucky that day, I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sales department from Magnum Mac in Wellington is still lousy.<br />
Went in there on Saturday to buy a 27-inch iMac.<br />
Staff were busy gossiping amongst each other, walking straight past me without enquiring if I needed any assistance.<br />
Waited for around 15 minutes before anyone approached me. Absolutely useless!<br />
Did manage to get it in the end as they happened to have stock.<br />
If only a decent competitor would open up to go against them!</p>
<p>The service department (for all the negatives comments I&#8217;ve heard about them) were quite good.<br />
They fixed my under warranty MBP in a fast, efficient manner and were quite helpful.<br />
This repair was a few years ago so whether it&#8217;s still the same now or I just got lucky that day, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.nevermind.co.nz/2008/04/10/techtidbit-avoid-magnummac/comment-page-1/#comment-368</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 00:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, MM *still* are total schlong-bags (well in Wellington anyway). They were a good set-up 20 years ago when starting out in Christchurch but seemed to drift into mediocrity when the chain stores were opened. I just rang them at 1pm on a Thursday  and the call rang off without an answer. Probably three muppets were engaged in a conversation about the iPad with a chin-stroking backpacker 2 feet from the phone. This is Customer Service 101 doesn&#039;t matter who&#039;s product you&#039;re selling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, MM *still* are total schlong-bags (well in Wellington anyway). They were a good set-up 20 years ago when starting out in Christchurch but seemed to drift into mediocrity when the chain stores were opened. I just rang them at 1pm on a Thursday  and the call rang off without an answer. Probably three muppets were engaged in a conversation about the iPad with a chin-stroking backpacker 2 feet from the phone. This is Customer Service 101 doesn&#8217;t matter who&#8217;s product you&#8217;re selling.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.nevermind.co.nz/2008/04/10/techtidbit-avoid-magnummac/comment-page-1/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MM Are complete total idiots. I have not been to the bay yet but it sounds great. F*** MM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM Are complete total idiots. I have not been to the bay yet but it sounds great. F*** MM</p>
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		<title>By: haels</title>
		<link>http://www.nevermind.co.nz/2008/04/10/techtidbit-avoid-magnummac/comment-page-1/#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>haels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you people out there complaining are idiots. If everyone who went to   a MM site came to this post and left a comment you would be truely ashamed of yourselves. My partner is a technician at the MM store in Hamilton. They do their bests but its hard when there is only TWO of them and a never ending list of computers needing fixed with different regulations attached. for example MM do all the Apple computers issued to teachers and they have a 3 day turn around. Plus Renaissonce changed their delivery system to a new company that is much slower. PLUS Apple changed the way you get new parts as they are not kept in New Zealand in storage anymore, they have to be specially ordered in. JUST THINK WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE IF YOU WERE IN THEIR SHOES AYE? THEN MAYBE YOU WILL ALL PULL YOUR HEADS IN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you people out there complaining are idiots. If everyone who went to   a MM site came to this post and left a comment you would be truely ashamed of yourselves. My partner is a technician at the MM store in Hamilton. They do their bests but its hard when there is only TWO of them and a never ending list of computers needing fixed with different regulations attached. for example MM do all the Apple computers issued to teachers and they have a 3 day turn around. Plus Renaissonce changed their delivery system to a new company that is much slower. PLUS Apple changed the way you get new parts as they are not kept in New Zealand in storage anymore, they have to be specially ordered in. JUST THINK WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE IF YOU WERE IN THEIR SHOES AYE? THEN MAYBE YOU WILL ALL PULL YOUR HEADS IN</p>
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		<title>By: Roebrt Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roebrt Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly some people have had some shocking service but I think there needs to be some clarification for the original issue that Chris saw with MagnumMacs service in regards to the replacement of the battery. 

I have worked at a number of Apple Authorised Service Providers and can confirm that though it isn&#039;t Apple&#039;s policy to remove your battery and leave you without it for a few days while waiting on the replacement, what MagnumMac were doing was actually a favour to you. I&#039;ll explain. 

Firstly, Apple makes no allowance for using off the shelf retail stock to replace faulty batteries for customers who approach service centres. To do so could stuff up the warranty on the retail stock batteries as they are all uniquely serialised and carry full 12 month warranties, where as the service part replacement only carries 90 days. So the chances of ANY service provider letting you walk out the door with a new off the shelf replacement when they are yet to even know whether Apple will provide them with a warranty replacement for your faulty one, let alone the replacement only coming with a 90 day warranty for them to place back on the shelf is slim. 

Secondly, Apple assume that when the order for the warranty replacement is placed, that the Apple service provider actually have your whole machine in their service department, not just the battery. They give the service provider a very small window in which to &quot;Exchange&quot; the faulty battery for the replacement. If the provider has neither the machine nor the battery then when the replacement arrives they they to quickly contact you to get you to come in and perform the exchange ASAP or face the possibility of missing the exchange window and possibly wearing the cost of the replacement battery or late fees for the return of the faulty one (Its amazing how many people agree to come in straight away when called but are suddenly &quot;Busy&quot; or &quot;away&quot; when you call them), few service providers are willing to risk these charges (Especially as the service is free to customer) unless you an already a well established customer of that provider/store. So most providers will find a middle ground and rather then holding onto your entire machine till the exchange process is complete, will offer you back the bit you can still use (i.e the machine) keeping the battery and thus guaranteeing the battery can be exchanged immediately when the replacement arrives but you can still use you machine in the meantime. Remember Apple expects that the service provider have your entire machine during all this time. So what MagnumMac did for Chris was pretty fair to both him and them. 

Additionally Chris doesn&#039;t mention where he purchased the machine and it is highly likely it wasnt from MagnumMac. So people need to remember that Apple Service providers are not &quot;Apple&quot;. They didn&#039;t make or design the product, they certainly didn&#039;t break the product and often they didnt even sell the product and still have to try and provide you a service entirely for free (When in warranty). They have rules and limitations set down by Apple and are often trying to do as much as they can for the customers best interest but as they still are an independent commercial enterprise, they still have to cater to their own bottom line and personally I dont mind if they have to sometimes make tough choices to help keep down potential costs or fees , as long as it help them to remain in business to be available to help me with my next issue, the amount of good providers is small enough as it is. Most service providers live off their reputations and returning customers so its normally not in their best interest to P*ss you off and mostly this is not what they are trying to do, but just sometimes they just cant meet the customers exceptions and its not due to the lack of service, it sometimes comes down to unreasonably high expectations. 

Im not defending MagnumMac but Independant stores such as Magnummac are in no different a position then Noel Leemings or Harvey Normans or the Warehouse but our expectation of their level of service is often a great deal Higher. I dont know why. The chain store often make higher margins (Due to having a better bulk purchase price) and often provide either minimal or no service and extremely limited product knowledge but we are happy to accept that from them but are quick to complain about independent providers.

All that said mind you, bad service is bad service and you have every right to complain and comment if you have been wronged. Its just that sometimes we are not aware of the whole picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly some people have had some shocking service but I think there needs to be some clarification for the original issue that Chris saw with MagnumMacs service in regards to the replacement of the battery. </p>
<p>I have worked at a number of Apple Authorised Service Providers and can confirm that though it isn&#8217;t Apple&#8217;s policy to remove your battery and leave you without it for a few days while waiting on the replacement, what MagnumMac were doing was actually a favour to you. I&#8217;ll explain. </p>
<p>Firstly, Apple makes no allowance for using off the shelf retail stock to replace faulty batteries for customers who approach service centres. To do so could stuff up the warranty on the retail stock batteries as they are all uniquely serialised and carry full 12 month warranties, where as the service part replacement only carries 90 days. So the chances of ANY service provider letting you walk out the door with a new off the shelf replacement when they are yet to even know whether Apple will provide them with a warranty replacement for your faulty one, let alone the replacement only coming with a 90 day warranty for them to place back on the shelf is slim. </p>
<p>Secondly, Apple assume that when the order for the warranty replacement is placed, that the Apple service provider actually have your whole machine in their service department, not just the battery. They give the service provider a very small window in which to &#8220;Exchange&#8221; the faulty battery for the replacement. If the provider has neither the machine nor the battery then when the replacement arrives they they to quickly contact you to get you to come in and perform the exchange ASAP or face the possibility of missing the exchange window and possibly wearing the cost of the replacement battery or late fees for the return of the faulty one (Its amazing how many people agree to come in straight away when called but are suddenly &#8220;Busy&#8221; or &#8220;away&#8221; when you call them), few service providers are willing to risk these charges (Especially as the service is free to customer) unless you an already a well established customer of that provider/store. So most providers will find a middle ground and rather then holding onto your entire machine till the exchange process is complete, will offer you back the bit you can still use (i.e the machine) keeping the battery and thus guaranteeing the battery can be exchanged immediately when the replacement arrives but you can still use you machine in the meantime. Remember Apple expects that the service provider have your entire machine during all this time. So what MagnumMac did for Chris was pretty fair to both him and them. </p>
<p>Additionally Chris doesn&#8217;t mention where he purchased the machine and it is highly likely it wasnt from MagnumMac. So people need to remember that Apple Service providers are not &#8220;Apple&#8221;. They didn&#8217;t make or design the product, they certainly didn&#8217;t break the product and often they didnt even sell the product and still have to try and provide you a service entirely for free (When in warranty). They have rules and limitations set down by Apple and are often trying to do as much as they can for the customers best interest but as they still are an independent commercial enterprise, they still have to cater to their own bottom line and personally I dont mind if they have to sometimes make tough choices to help keep down potential costs or fees , as long as it help them to remain in business to be available to help me with my next issue, the amount of good providers is small enough as it is. Most service providers live off their reputations and returning customers so its normally not in their best interest to P*ss you off and mostly this is not what they are trying to do, but just sometimes they just cant meet the customers exceptions and its not due to the lack of service, it sometimes comes down to unreasonably high expectations. </p>
<p>Im not defending MagnumMac but Independant stores such as Magnummac are in no different a position then Noel Leemings or Harvey Normans or the Warehouse but our expectation of their level of service is often a great deal Higher. I dont know why. The chain store often make higher margins (Due to having a better bulk purchase price) and often provide either minimal or no service and extremely limited product knowledge but we are happy to accept that from them but are quick to complain about independent providers.</p>
<p>All that said mind you, bad service is bad service and you have every right to complain and comment if you have been wronged. Its just that sometimes we are not aware of the whole picture.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.nevermind.co.nz/2008/04/10/techtidbit-avoid-magnummac/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always had great service from Magnum Mac in Albany best Apple reseller there is, don&#039;t know what your all on about, service time is alittle slow but not MM&#039;s fault as that&#039;s Renaissance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always had great service from Magnum Mac in Albany best Apple reseller there is, don&#8217;t know what your all on about, service time is alittle slow but not MM&#8217;s fault as that&#8217;s Renaissance.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alison,

I am not totally convinced you read my post completely...

I went back to try and give them some of my money.
I LOVE The Bay! They are the complete opposite of Magnum Mac. They actually listen when I talk. 

I keep going back to them in the hope that they actually have something to sell me. That is my problem. I am trying to give them money, but there is nothing on the shelf! I can&#039;t afford to wait 4 weeks for a laptop. 

Here is the best part. The Bay know I went to Dick Smiths and purchased my Mac there, yet the staff member STILL offered to help me at anytime with any set up problems!! They are just that good.

They are doing everything right, except being able to sell me anything. I just feel very sorry for them, that&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alison,</p>
<p>I am not totally convinced you read my post completely&#8230;</p>
<p>I went back to try and give them some of my money.<br />
I LOVE The Bay! They are the complete opposite of Magnum Mac. They actually listen when I talk. </p>
<p>I keep going back to them in the hope that they actually have something to sell me. That is my problem. I am trying to give them money, but there is nothing on the shelf! I can&#8217;t afford to wait 4 weeks for a laptop. </p>
<p>Here is the best part. The Bay know I went to Dick Smiths and purchased my Mac there, yet the staff member STILL offered to help me at anytime with any set up problems!! They are just that good.</p>
<p>They are doing everything right, except being able to sell me anything. I just feel very sorry for them, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://www.nevermind.co.nz/2008/04/10/techtidbit-avoid-magnummac/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just searching up my favourite apple reseller and i happen to find this blog..
and all i have to say is:
everyone adding comments to this website....
You all really should just get over yourself.. do you even know the reason why they hardly ever have any stock it&#039;s because they are well known for their great support and people like buying products off them. 
Imagine yourself in their shoes dealing with angry customers!
I don&#039;t mean to be rude or anything it&#039;s just you obviously don&#039;t understand what they go through. Gail why did you even go back if you didn&#039;t like their service in the 1st place?  all of you people writing in this blog just make us customers sound bad and thats why in most places you don&#039;t get nice customer service...CUSTOMERS AREN&quot;T ALWAYS RIGHT...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just searching up my favourite apple reseller and i happen to find this blog..<br />
and all i have to say is:<br />
everyone adding comments to this website&#8230;.<br />
You all really should just get over yourself.. do you even know the reason why they hardly ever have any stock it&#8217;s because they are well known for their great support and people like buying products off them.<br />
Imagine yourself in their shoes dealing with angry customers!<br />
I don&#8217;t mean to be rude or anything it&#8217;s just you obviously don&#8217;t understand what they go through. Gail why did you even go back if you didn&#8217;t like their service in the 1st place?  all of you people writing in this blog just make us customers sound bad and thats why in most places you don&#8217;t get nice customer service&#8230;CUSTOMERS AREN&#8221;T ALWAYS RIGHT&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
		<link>http://www.nevermind.co.nz/2008/04/10/techtidbit-avoid-magnummac/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We finally got someone to actually compete with MagnumMac!

The Bay is clean, friendly, has knowledgeable staff, great demo tables, fantastic location AND they talk to you like you are the world to them....

BUT they NEVER, EVER have any stock of anything!!! Every time I go in there, I get another excuse as to why they don&#039;t have any stock. &#039;Sold Out&#039; &#039;Global Demand&#039; (While everywhere else in town does.....). Apparently, this is common for them, as I was discussing with Mac friends who have also been in and been disappointed...

On Saturday I spoke to a nice english gentleman for about an hour, he was extremely helpful, polite, knew his products and prepared a quote for me. He had done such a great job selling me on the Mac, I was almost in tears when I was told they had none in stock. So I walked around the corner to Dick Smiths and purchased everything there....

So for great advice, help and nice friendly people, go to the Bay. To actually buy anything, avoid them like the plague.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We finally got someone to actually compete with MagnumMac!</p>
<p>The Bay is clean, friendly, has knowledgeable staff, great demo tables, fantastic location AND they talk to you like you are the world to them&#8230;.</p>
<p>BUT they NEVER, EVER have any stock of anything!!! Every time I go in there, I get another excuse as to why they don&#8217;t have any stock. &#8216;Sold Out&#8217; &#8216;Global Demand&#8217; (While everywhere else in town does&#8230;..). Apparently, this is common for them, as I was discussing with Mac friends who have also been in and been disappointed&#8230;</p>
<p>On Saturday I spoke to a nice english gentleman for about an hour, he was extremely helpful, polite, knew his products and prepared a quote for me. He had done such a great job selling me on the Mac, I was almost in tears when I was told they had none in stock. So I walked around the corner to Dick Smiths and purchased everything there&#8230;.</p>
<p>So for great advice, help and nice friendly people, go to the Bay. To actually buy anything, avoid them like the plague.</p>
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